Kendall Jenner‘s got a bad girl side and a nipple piercing to prove it.

“It is true,” the 19-year-old told Page Six Friday while celebrating the launch of her new Estée Lauder fragrance Modern Muse Le Rouge at Macy’s in New York City. “I was going through a period in my life, having a rough time, being a rebel and was like ‘Let’s just do it.’”

“[I was] so terrified, I’m laying on the bed like ‘Why am I doing this,’” she continued. “Honestly, it hurt, but wasn’t as bad as everyone made it seem and maybe because everyone hyped it up and I thought it would be really, really bad. Then it wasn’t as bad as I expected.”

That same rebel mentality appears to be an important part of her professional life, too. She’s adamant about not observing the current thigh gap trend that’s grown popular on Instagram.

“I wish people would stop worrying about thigh gaps,” she said. “Seriously, I think it’s so pointless. I don’t even know why that was a thing. You’re hurting yourself by even worrying about it. It’s just awful.”